{"id":969,"date":"2025-02-11T13:01:22","date_gmt":"2025-02-11T21:01:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/zanavu.com\/notes\/?p=969"},"modified":"2025-02-11T17:32:35","modified_gmt":"2025-02-12T01:32:35","slug":"bake-with-llms","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zanavu.com\/notes\/2025\/02\/11\/bake-with-llms\/","title":{"rendered":"Bake with LLMs?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>There is a lot of talk about AI, LLMs, GPTS, GEMs, Agents, etc. In between learning and exploring about these fast growing and changing technologies, we also <strong>have to eat!<\/strong>\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In our family, we started liking sourdough bread. We are interested in baking our own bread too. Ovens, baking, and good quality are challenging for us. So we kept postponing the baking of our own sourdough bread.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Recently we got a sourdough starter kit and we took the plunge. I also decided to enlisted some of the latest AI technologies to help us.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My prompt for the AI engines is:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Prompt: <strong>Make a sequence diagram for baking sourdough bread<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>I checked this out against 3-4 LLM engines. I am glad to receive the clear and simple outputs I received including <a href=\"https:\/\/mermaid.com\">mermaid diagrams<\/a>. I am pleasantly surprised that a <a href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/funmu\/shail\">locally hosted LLM model<\/a> was producing the best results.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Gemini.Google and ChatGPT<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Trying the prompt on ready to use chat experience, yielded straight forward sequence diagram in mermaid script form.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">sequenceDiagram<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; participant Baker<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; participant Starter<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; participant Dough<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; participant Oven<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; Baker-&gt;&gt;Starter: Feed starter<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; Starter&#8211;&gt;&gt;Baker: Starter is ready<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; Baker-&gt;&gt;Dough: Mix flour, water, salt, and starter<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; Dough&#8211;&gt;&gt;Baker: Dough is formed<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; Baker-&gt;&gt;Dough: Bulk fermentation (several hours)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; loop Stretch and Fold (Every 30 mins)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Baker-&gt;&gt;Dough: Stretch and fold<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; end<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; Dough&#8211;&gt;&gt;Baker: Dough is fermented<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; Baker-&gt;&gt;Dough: Shape the dough<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; Baker-&gt;&gt;Dough: Final proof (overnight)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; Dough&#8211;&gt;&gt;Baker: Dough is proofed<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; Baker-&gt;&gt;Oven: Preheat oven<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"code has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; Baker-&gt;&gt;Dough: Score the dough<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; Baker-&gt;&gt;Oven: Bake the bread<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; Oven&#8211;&gt;&gt;Baker: Bread is baked<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\" style=\"border-radius:10px\">&nbsp; &nbsp; Baker-&gt;&gt;Baker: Enjoy fresh sourdough!<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>Translated into mermaid diagram, we get this <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-medium is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"273\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/zanavu.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Stretch-and-fold-273x300.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-970\" style=\"width:616px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zanavu.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Stretch-and-fold-273x300.png 273w, https:\/\/zanavu.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Stretch-and-fold-768x844.png 768w, https:\/\/zanavu.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Stretch-and-fold-1398x1536.png 1398w, https:\/\/zanavu.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Stretch-and-fold-1864x2048.png 1864w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 273px) 100vw, 273px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Locally Hosted LLM<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Most of us like the idea of not sharing much data. So why not use a locally hosted LLM. I had set up a <strong>self-hosted AI with LLMs<\/strong> (SHAIL) on my Mac Silicon machine. I landed up the open sourced DeepSeek-R1:14b model to run within open-webui. And it performed really well. Besides getting a sequence diagram, it also showed me the thinking process and the diagram script. And all these happened with a minor penalty on generation time. My local machine has limited RAM and limited GPUs in it right now. So I am not surprised at the performance penalty.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here is the output sequence diagram generated by the local run.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-medium is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"289\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/zanavu.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Starter-289x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-971\" style=\"width:615px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zanavu.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Starter-289x300.jpg 289w, https:\/\/zanavu.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Starter-768x798.jpg 768w, https:\/\/zanavu.com\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Starter.jpg 1244w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 289px) 100vw, 289px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>In conclusion,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>it is incredible that the locally hosted version generated mermaid diagrams and simple steps. Now, it is time for me to make the sourdough bread and see the results.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>PS: we already created starter 2 days back. we fermented yesterday night; we will bake today<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There is a lot of talk about AI, LLMs, GPTS, GEMs, Agents, etc. In between learning and exploring about these fast growing and changing technologies, we also have to eat!\u00a0 In our family, we started liking sourdough bread. We are interested in baking our own bread too. 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